Why do engaged people cheat?


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    Nancy

    Curious to see what you all think about this. Married people who cheat – I don’t condone it at all – but I think my brain is at least able to grasp what they are attempting to say when they use the “it’s a loveless relationship/I’m stuck/we have kids together” variety of excuses. Again I don’t agree or accept those but my mind is able to comprehend it. But why do engaged people do it? And I’m not even necessarily talking about these one time moment of weakness/bachelor party or one night stand things (or maybe I am.) But I’m talking about the guy or girl who has a relationship for months if not years while bethrothed to another. Why enter into a lifelong commitment knowing that – given your actions and deceit – you clearly should not be and that I’ll likely end soon and poorly?? I don’t get it.

    #647025 Reply
    Raven

    They cheat because they are horrible people…

    #647030 Reply
    Hannah

    Are we talking about someone who is engaged and actually planning a wedding or just engaged? Some people stay engaged for years and have the same dynamic as a married couple. Others get engaged but never really plan to get married. They’re just boyfriend/girlfriend. If they’re actively planning a wedding and he cheats, I see that as one of the lowest things a man can do. Like cheating when the wife is pregnant.

    #647033 Reply
    Nancy

    In the case of the person I “know” – it’s a guy my boyfriend works with who is cheating on his fiancée. They are getting married in less than six months. There is a date. They’re planning. They recently had their engagement pictures taken and they are posted (by the groom too!) all over Facebook. And he’s been sleeping with another woman for months now. And it’s not even someone he knew before or used to date. It’s a new woman that he met after he proposed to his soon to be wife. The girlfriend happened to go into my boyfriend/the groom’s place of business and the groom apparently asked for her number. He told my boyfriend that he sees her every week and they apparently talk all of the time over text and phone and whatnot. I don’t know if the girlfriend knows the groom is engaged or not and the groom did not tell my boyfriend one way or the other. The groom says he told only only my boyfriend (he doesn’t know my boyfriend told me but I don’t know this guys fiancée – although we will probably be invited to the wedding … ugh) and my boyfriend is so disgusted by it all that he had to vent to me. In this case too, my boyfriend says the fiancée isn’t pregnant and didn’t pressure the groom into proposing as they’ve only been together for like a year anyway so they’re getting married – presumably – because they really want to. I don’t know the guy well but my boyfriend is flabbergasted. But this isn’t the first I’ve heard of someone cheating while engaged so I was just curious as to why this occurs. Why are these people continuing with their plans to get married when they’re doing something like that on the side???

    #647036 Reply
    Phillygirl

    Selfishness, lack of empathy, little/no integrity, are qualities of some of the worst kinds of people who cheat.

    Then there are those who cheat because they feel so unloved, unappreciated, ignored, and invisible. But at the end of the day, cheating is ALWAYS a choice.

    You can choose to leave or you can choose deceit.

    I have known people in serious relationships/married who cheated (they were in the second camp of feeling consistently taken for granted and needing attention/affection)… every single one ended in disaster.

    Someone like the guy you are talking about here, however, is the epitome of useless douchebag. He cheats because he can’t/won’t be faithful to anyone and all that matters are his selfish, thoughtless desires. He’s a scumbag whose only concerns are what makes him happy.

    Some people get off on the excitement of the idea of getting caught. But anyone who is a serial cheater has some major issues, and is a serious mess.

    If you do receive a wedding invitation, I would immediately decline. Allowing toxic people in our lives (or removing/avoiding them) is also a choice.

    Staying far away from these types is something I can’t recommend strongly enough.

    #647043 Reply
    Nancy

    I’d love to decline it but it’s my boyfriend’s coworker and everyone else from work will be going so he doesn’t have much of a choice. Otherwise it’s a bad look. He may not get a +1 (selfishly hoping for that at this point as e will have all the rest of the guys there to hang out with anyway.) I just find it so strange to be planning the rest of your life with someone all the while ruining it behind their backs. I mean I guess it does come down to the person themselves and why they make those choices but don’t they realize they are making things worse by makin a LIFELONG commitment?? How could that marriage ever work?!

    #647045 Reply
    Newbie

    I know guys find it hard to talk to bro’s in an honest way. But hasnt your bf asked him why he keeps on planning the wedding and if he is in love with that other girl? Maybe he got confused, has feelings for the new girl but doesnt have the heart to break up the engagemenf? Your bf could actially help him questioning his behaviour and prevent a marriage that is doomed from happening

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    T from NY

    There are some men who brag about their exploits – they are not confiding so much as bragging. And men and women who do this have very little emotional depth or refuse to let people “know them” beyond a surface level. Either they lack empathy and are narcissistic or they want the “picture” of a good life but that good life makes them feel controlled. While the affair(s) feel like the one thing they are in charge of that is just for them. I agree many get hooked on the “danger” and excitement of sneaking around. And think of the ego payoff for a (douchebag) dude who has one woman madly in love with him ready to marry him and another woman waiting around every day to snag just a moment with him. (Insert huge eye-roll here)

    Additionally, I dated a man once who just loved the attention from women. Absolutely thrived on it. He was faithful, but there was always a woman wanting his time, favors or advice. I will never date a man like that again. I always felt a day would come when we were in a rough patch and one of his female “friends” would swoop in. Men like the one you’ve described want their cake and to eat it too.

    The sad part is – someone should tell the bride. I know a lot of people on this thread would say to stay out of it. But I always say do unto others… If this was your fiancée screwing around on you while your planning your wedding — wouldn’t you wanna know? And if the woman chooses to stay at least you gave her the opportunity to make that choice. Telling her could be anonymous or just an email or letter.

    #647055 Reply
    tutu

    The engaged men cheat because they think they should have a last fling before they’re locked down with that one person the rest of their lives.

    Maybe you can ask your boyfriend to have a talk with that guy or if he sees “the other woman” again, he should casually mention the guy is engaged. Maybe the other woman doesn’t know so it’s not her fault if she doesn’t know.

    #647064 Reply
    Emma

    You can choose to leave or you can choose deceit – or you can chose to open your marriage, and more and more people resort to that.

    I don’t know how people cheat. I could never do it, people should come out clean and take it from there. The moment you fall for someone in a serious way you should come out clean. In many cases it is the lying and the betrayal that hurts the most and kills marriages, if people don’t feel betrayed they can find a way to work things out, with or without divorce.

    But in this case I think the guy is just a cheat. He’d cheat on his wife later on in a marriage.

    I agree that the woman should know, imagine how she’d feel looking back, when she finally realizes he has been cheating on her. It will darken her life, her memories. It is best if she knows. Both women should know, I bet the other women doesn’t know, however, there are pics on FB? Well maybe she is one of those small minded women who takes secret pleasure in feeling superior to the deceived “wife”.

    #647066 Reply
    Apple

    There are tons of articles online about this, varies by couple and individual,

    Emma. You admit your mom is psychotic. Maybe you are too? Because you contradict yourself all over the place. You said you had a bf or some guy you loved in addition to your husband? Makes sense b abuse your advice is so out there at times it does sound psychotic. And I bet you are your moms girl.

    #647067 Reply
    Nancy

    Yikes – not looking to start any drama or inviting name calling/family insults. I am not on here often and have no idea what that last post was about but that is certainly not what I am looking for on my thread.

    In any event, I couldn’t tell this woman even if I wanted to, anonymously or otherwise, because I have absolutely no idea who she is. I don’t even know the guy’s last name and his first name is very generic. He is literally just a coworker of my boyfriend’s whose name I have heard half a dozen times or so. And there is no way my boyfriend would reach out to this woman on his own (I don’t think he’s ever met her either, truth be told) because he just is not the type to involve himself. Another reason why this was so incredibly off-putting for him. I hope one of them calls this thing off before the wedding date but not knowing either of them personally, who knows.

    #647068 Reply
    Karen

    I know men who adore their wives and children and only cheat because they want NSA sex. Either they’re not getting any at home at all, or they are bored with the routine and want some variety. They wouldn’t leave their wives in a million years. And I doubt the women they are using for sex know it. Or hell, maybe they do and that’s OK with them. I don’t know.

    One man I know has been sleeping with other women casually for almost 20 years because his wife is chronically depressed and hates to be touched and he gets zero sex at home. I know this is true because I know his wife and she admits this is the case. She thinks he is this saint who is incredibly respectful of her. Wrong. I found out what he does by accident. I’ve never said a word and I wouldn’t. They’ve been married almost 40 years. If she found out, I think she’d be very hurt but I don’t think they’d split up.

    Engaged men. Well, I think it’s because they have something to prove about their manhood or monogamy scares them. My hairdresser from some years ago got married and found out on the honeymoon he’d been sleeping with someone else for 6 months before they had this big lavish wedding. She left immediately. He said but she doesn’t mean a thing to me, I love you and I married you. And she said, that’s too bad that you are losing me over nothing, it would have been better if you at least had feelings for her, because I don’t want you any more and now there’s no chance she will either. And she cut him off and never spoke directly to him again, her lawyer handled everything. She got an annulment on the grounds of fraud.

    Who knows. I feel sorry for the bride. I hope someone tells her, but I’ve gotta say sometimes women don’t take too kindly to that. I’d want to know, but I’m surprised at the number of women who wouldn’t not and would shoot the messenger.

    #647091 Reply
    Lane

    This is so wrong. I would find out where she lives and put an anonymous note “I enjoy spending time with your fiance'” in her mailbox.

    #647120 Reply
    Phillygirl

    This is about so much more than the physical act committed in cheating. First, this poor girl is also exposed to STD’s/STI’s, and all the unnecessary/unneeded drama that come with the deception.

    A cheater takes away their S.O.’s ability to choose, when they make a unilateral decision to step outside of the relationship, without agreement or permission.

    You not only take away someone’s choice, you steal their trust, intimacy, faith, and peace. And you make it hard to trust in general. When the person who “supposedly” loves you the most, or as one of the most important people in your life cheats, it breaks something. Something that cannot always be repaired.

    That is the biggest consequence of cheating. Trust and truth are destroyed, and replaced with doubt, cynicism, mistrust, and pain.

    There are couples who work through it, but in those cases, the cheater gives up almost all rights to privacy, because full transparency is mandatory to even consider an attempt at rebuilding trust. It’s much harder than winning someone over to begin with, because deceit has to be overcome, which isn’t easy. Doubt stays in the mind of the one cheated on for a long time.

    I am of the mind that if you cheat on me, I’m done. As in… gone so fast it’s as if I never existed. Life is too short and difficult without trust.

    Not everyone cheats, I want someone who takes it seriously when they make a promise/vow. If you can cheat once, chances are high you will do it again.

    Yes, people make mistakes sometimes, ones they truly regret. So you can forgive, but it doesn’t mean you have to stay.

    For me to stay in a relationship in a situation like that, a guy would have to bust his hump earning back my trust, and it’s such hard work. Too hard for most. Some things can NEVER be taken back- just like words, once said, can’t be unsaid.

    I admire the relationships where something like this happens and two people truly love each other SO MUCH, they commit to working it out together, but only when the effort is serious and honest and the cheater EARNS trust back. And that is something that has to be re-earned every single day.

    I do not admire or respect people who don’t have enough self-esteem to walk away from a bad seed, though, because that is a different story altogether.

    I do pity and feel sorry for them, because that is a version of hell I never want to live .

    And I still say neither of you HAVE to go to this wedding. I don’t know why people think they have no choice. It’s ridiculous. The wedding is a sham. Why waste a day and money on a gift? Your BF doesn’t have to say why, just that you can’t make it.

    I politely decline invitations all the time. You are allowed to set YOUR OWN boundaries. So if he wants to go, fine. If not, no one is putting a gun to either of your heads.

    Just sayin.

    #647186 Reply
    Prairiegirl

    I do agree with Philly. Why do you think you are obligated to go to this wedding? I know your boyfriend doesn’t want to be involved, but when this douche is venting to him, can he not express his disgust?

    #945093 Reply
    ellan

    I have been in a vary bad and horrible relationship in my past and it almost cost me to loose everything to my bad ex i noticed so he strange move and i was not feeling safe anymore that make me get in touch with trusted friend that refer me to get in contact with Contact TECHSPYMAX at gm ail c om , he assist me to gotten access to her devices and i was able to see every of her bad plan on how to take over everything i worked real hard for sometime you need to check vey well who you are dealing with before you commit all your life.

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